The latter never paid for or published any sort of audit If you require that something like Matrix/Briar over Tor fits the usecase better. The former needs some payment method, the latter a phone number. In regard to Signal, we know exactly what metadata is available it's not much at all. Essentially the arguments for that are made in this part of the issue #1437
In regard to the USA thing, we've been thinking of removing that/refining it for some time, as it is an ancient part of the site. That is one of the downsides in general of centralized services. However with any centralized service, if you deployed it, people would require a special client too that points to your server.
There is some context to that, firstly the source code for Signal's server software is available. No server source is a negative point for Threema, but similarly it's negative that Signal is a USA-based service which PrivacyTools says is "not recommended" If Threema is listed, people can make a more informed choice. If I didn't already know of them, PrivacyTools would have me go with Signal exclusively. I'm actively looking for a Telegram replacement that comes close to the experience of Telegram (so that friends and family will not mind using it) and the only options I see are Threema, Signal, and perhaps Wire. It has various downsides, not least that its reliance on Amazon services doesn't support the aforementioned goal according to PrivacyTools itself, and alternatives like Matrix/Element or Jami are not as mature as Threema in terms of UX and features. While I agree that this would be best, is it a reason not to list it as an available option? The goal of PrivacyTools is to "provide services, tools, and knowledge to protect your privacy against global mass surveillance," not to protect your wallet against being used.Ĭurrently there is only one option listed if you want a secure, general purpose messenger like everyone else uses: Signal.
Do feel that Threema being paid kind of defeats the purpose, a messenger should be something really accesible for everyone.
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